Lea Feiger: And it also plays into the fact that the entire media is out to get us.
David Gilbert: Absolutely, yes.
Lea Feiger: That’s the end, yeah. So, that’s fun.
David Gilbert: This reinforces the idea that Trump said, “Oh, ABC is going to ask Kamala questions.”
Lea Feiger: Okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, no, that was his big conspiracy. Okay. It’s too bad, but it’s a good thing. Tim, what do you have for us?
The Marchman Team: I am convinced, like Loomer, that the political goal of the Democratic Party is to murder Jews.
Lea Feiger: I love it. Say more.
The Marchman Team: In an interview earlier this year, she said, “If you’re a Democrat and you vote Jewish or Democrat, then you kind of deserve what’s coming to you.” These people are like the Jews in the Holocaust who helped the Nazis because they thought they would be the last to go. They’re like the Jewish kapos in the Holocaust who helped put Jews in the gas chambers. That’s what these people are.
Lea Feiger: Beautiful.
The Marchman Team: As beautiful as it may be, it’s difficult to engage with conspiracy theories in this way, but one almost wants to step back and wonder what steps elected Democrats have taken to achieve this apparent goal.
Lea Feiger: Of course.
The Marchman Team: …to destroy Jews in America and elsewhere. I don’t see a lot of evidence of that, but it’s a driving and fundamental theme of hers that I find a little bit irreconcilable with her avowed white nationalism, but she’s the one who’s directly making these comparisons. And I think it qualifies as a conspiracy because, to me at least, the Democratic Party has hidden it pretty well.
Lea Feiger: Both events were sad and terrible, and I am not declaring anyone the winner this week. I refuse to reward either with a victory.
David Gilbert: This is a good resolution.
The Marchman Team: I want to hit back. I want to hit back at this by saying that I was specifically forbidden from concocting a bespoke MK-ULTRA-Laura Loomer conspiracy in order to win the best conspiracy of the week award.
Lea Feiger: Also, I told you that you couldn’t share specific conspiracies about Laura Loomer that would get us sued, so…
The Marchman Team: Well, if you let us fight with our hands tied behind our backs.
Lea Feiger: Thank you both so much for joining us this week.
David Gilbert: THANKS.
The Marchman Team: Thank you for inviting me.
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